Marie is the creative genius behind pretty much everything here at TNDWP, except the actual episodes themselves, and is joining the conversation on special interests and creativity in this episode. We chat about her journey of discovering neurodivergence, the distinct ways special interests manifest in Autistic, ADHD, and AuDHD brains, and the central role these interests play as an organising force for Autistic individuals, and even how special interests for neurotypical brains look. Marie also opens up about losing access to her special interest (her creative process) during a time of trauma and burnout, and how reclaiming her passion for story work has been an essential part of her healing.

Today’s guest is Jess Rowlings, CEO and co-founder of Next Level Collaboration, speech and language therapist, and researcher with a passion for using digital games-based learning to promote inclusion and belonging. An adult-diagnosed AuDHDer and lifelong gamer, Jess shares how her personal and professional experiences shape her work, including creating a dedicated Minecraft server for neurodivergent girls and women.

In this episode, Monique and Jess dive into the role gaming plays in supporting neurodivergent individuals, from fostering collaboration and problem-solving to providing emotional regulation and connection. They explore gender dynamics in gaming, accessibility challenges for girls, women, and AFAB folk, and the evolving variety of gaming experiences. Jess also offers insights on balancing gaming with life activities, creating safer spaces, and valuing kids’ passion for gaming as a pathway to strength and belonging.

In this insightful interview, Monique speaks with Professor Sandra Thom-Jones—an Autistic author, artisan, academic, and advocate—about navigating life as an Autistic person in later stages. They discuss the invisibility of older Autistic adults and the unique challenges they face, including menopause, healthcare needs, and retirement. Sandra encourages Autistic individuals to reject neuro-normative expectations and design a joyful life, sharing her gradual transition into retirement and the importance of rediscovering passions and building a “happy place” long before retirement arrives.